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Spent some time on this today and wanted to compare notes.
I'm comparing two approaches here: keep it simple on M3 Max, or squeeze more out of the stack and deal with the complexity.
Interested in tradeoffs more than fan loyalty.
mostly local
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I tested this tonight. My result was mixed: first run looked bad, second run looked normal. I expected the model choice to matter more than it did.
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Ran a quick check on my box. My result was mixed: first run looked bad, second run looked normal. I expected the model choice to matter more than it did.
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What worked for me was pretty simple. Start by verifying the driver/runtime combo, then test with a smaller prompt, then look at structured output. Once you know the plain path works, then add the faster path back in piece by piece.
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I'd approach it in a boring order. Before rebuilding anything, I'd test one clean baseline with Mistral and compare from there.
trying not to rebuild again
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A couple things I'd check first. Start by verifying the driver/runtime combo, then test with a smaller prompt, then look at speculative decoding. Not glamorous advice, but repeatable baselines save a lot of time.
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I hit almost the same issue last night.
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That matches what I was seeing. The pattern around batch size has been pretty similar for me. I got better results once I stopped chasing one metric and just looked at whether the workflow felt usable.
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Maybe, but I had the opposite result. I wouldn't optimize around that first. On my side the bigger swing came from the runtime and not the model. Could be a workload difference, but I wouldn't generalize too fast from one setup.
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That matches what I was seeing. I don't think your conclusion is far off. Worth rechecking your defaults though, because one bad assumption can make the rest of the thread look confusing.