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Search / Retrieval / Reranking discussion for Gemma - tensorfield88 - 10-15-2026

Posting this in case it saves someone else a little time.

If you were starting from scratch today for this use case, what would you choose first and what would you ignore?

Simple and boring is a valid answer.


Re: Search / Retrieval / Reranking discussion for Gemma - cobaltlab - 10-17-2026

What worked for me was pretty simple. Start by verifying the driver/runtime combo, then test with a smaller prompt, then look at speculative decoding.


Re: Search / Retrieval / Reranking discussion for Gemma - deltagrid - 10-17-2026

I'd start with the simpler stack.


Re: Search / Retrieval / Reranking discussion for Gemma - llmarch51 - 10-17-2026

A couple things I'd check first. Start by verifying the driver/runtime combo, then test with a smaller prompt, then look at KV cache pressure.


Re: Search / Retrieval / Reranking discussion for Gemma - localcraft17 - 10-17-2026

My first guess would be this: Before rebuilding anything, I'd test one clean baseline with Phi and compare from there.


Re: Search / Retrieval / Reranking discussion for Gemma - relaysupply90 - 10-17-2026

Appreciate the detail. I don't think your conclusion is far off. Worth rechecking your defaults though, because one bad assumption can make the rest of the thread look confusing.


Re: Search / Retrieval / Reranking discussion for Gemma - vectorcrate98 - 10-17-2026

My first guess would be this: On B200, the easiest win is often to back off the aggressive settings and see whether the problem survives.


Re: Search / Retrieval / Reranking discussion for Gemma - circuitwire58 - 10-18-2026

I'd approach it in a boring order. Before rebuilding anything, I'd test one clean baseline with Kimi and compare from there. A lot of these threads end up being one bad config plus a pile of conclusions drawn from it.


Re: Search / Retrieval / Reranking discussion for Gemma - deepseeked - 10-18-2026

I'd approach it in a boring order. Before rebuilding anything, I'd test one clean baseline with Gemma and compare from there.


Re: Search / Retrieval / Reranking discussion for Gemma - turbosupply83 - 10-18-2026

I don't think that's the whole story. I wouldn't optimize around that first. On my side the bigger swing came from the runtime and not the model. Not saying you're wrong, just that I wouldn't lock that in as the lesson yet.