+- Inference (https://www.datasculpting.ai/inference)
+-- Forum: Prompting & Context Engineering (https://www.datasculpting.ai/inference/forumdisplay.php?fid=15)
+--- Forum: Structured Output (https://www.datasculpting.ai/inference/forumdisplay.php?fid=63)
+--- Thread: how strict do you make schemas: worth it? (/showthread.php?tid=1138)
Pages:
1
2
how strict do you make schemas: worth it? - amberplane - 10-12-2026
Spent some time on this today and wanted to compare notes.
I'm comparing two approaches here: keep it simple on 7900 XTX, or squeeze more out of the stack and deal with the complexity.
What would you pick if you had to live with it for a few months? I keep promising myself this is the last rebuild.
Re: how strict do you make schemas: worth it? - torchdesk - 10-12-2026
I'd approach it in a boring order. If you're on Ollama, I'd confirm the version first and then reduce variables until the behavior is obvious. A lot of these threads end up being one bad config plus a pile of conclusions drawn from it.
Re: how strict do you make schemas: worth it? - dockbrook21 - 10-13-2026
A couple things I'd check first. On B200, the easiest win is often to back off the aggressive settings and see whether the problem survives. A lot of these threads end up being one bad config plus a pile of conclusions drawn from it.
Re: how strict do you make schemas: worth it? - ggufvault - 10-13-2026
I tested this tonight. The issue went away once I changed one setting and restarted the stack cleanly. The main thing that moved was latency, not quality.
Re: how strict do you make schemas: worth it? - plaingarden18 - 10-13-2026
What worked for me was pretty simple. On B200, the easiest win is often to back off the aggressive settings and see whether the problem survives.
Re: how strict do you make schemas: worth it? - orbitgarden - 10-14-2026
Thanks, that helps. The pattern around NVFP4 has been pretty similar for me.
Re: how strict do you make schemas: worth it? - mlxgarden - 10-14-2026
Appreciate the detail. I ended up in about the same place using Ollama.
Re: how strict do you make schemas: worth it? - cudaworks - 10-15-2026
I'd approach it in a boring order. Start by verifying the driver/runtime combo, then test with a smaller prompt, then look at workstation thermals. A lot of these threads end up being one bad config plus a pile of conclusions drawn from it.
Re: how strict do you make schemas: worth it? - routecrate - 10-15-2026
Appreciate the detail. I ended up in about the same place using PyTorch.
Re: how strict do you make schemas: worth it? - rocmmixer - 10-15-2026
Quote:Appreciate the detail. I ended up in about the same place using PyTorch.
I hit almost the same issue last night.